一直想问= = 这两个有什么区别？

没区别，一个东西

前面那个好像是迪拉兹舰队用的徽标？

记得前面那个应该是新吉翁的徽标...

上面两个标志都是ZION的,迪拉兹舰队用的徽标是这样的

新吉恩的标志是这样的


[ 本帖最后由 所罗门恶梦 于 2008-2-27 23:22 编辑 ]

搬運…………
ZeonPrincipality of Zeon (Jion Koukoku)
by Eugene Ipavec, 2 january 2005
The Principality of Zeon is a militaristic, totalitarian regime, based in a cluster of space colonies in Side3 (L2). It starts a vicious war of agression against the Federation, nominally to gain independence and sef-determination for of all the space colonists. In practice their aim is to control the entire Earthsphere. The Zeon flag is a quite blatant ripoff of the Nazis, with the Sigil of Zeon in place of the swastika. The sigil represents Contolism, the philosophy of Zeon Zum Deikun, the founder of the Republic of Zeon. Originally, simply a philosophy of self-determination, but it is later hijacked by radical nationalists who pervert it into a fascist ideology of strenght and colonial supremacism. The Principality as originally depicted was only a fairly generic unpleasant regime, with a violently xenophobic nationalism having infected an othewise legitimate cause--the Nazi allusions were gradually introduced in assorted sequels over the course of the decade after the original Gundam series aired in 1979. This flag can be seen flying off the conning tower of a Zeon sub in Gundam 0083, among other places. in 1979. The flag can be seen flying off the conning tower of a Zeon sub in Gundam 0083, among other places.
Eugene Ipavec, 2 january 2005
Origin Graphic Novel version
by Eugene Ipavec, 2 january 2005
An alternate version of the Zeon flag. It appears only in the Origin graphic novel, which makes certain changes to the plot and is considered a step above semi-canonical.
Eugene Ipavec, 2 january 2005
MS IGLOO: Confidential Files of the One Year War version
by Eugene Ipavec, 10 january 2005
Another flag of the Principality of Zeon. It is identical to the common one except that a different variant of the Sigil of Zeon appears in the center. It was used in the 2004 series MS IGLOO: Confidential Files of the One Year War (Kidou Senshi Gundam MS IGLOO: Ichinen Sensou Hiwa). An image of the flag appears here
Eugene Ipavec, 10 january 2005
Logos Comparison
by Eugene Ipavec, 11 january 2005

• Appears in more recent productions, includind 2004's MS Igloo
• Appears in Gundam 0083
• Appears only in the 'Gundam: The Origin' graphic novels.
• The most common variant. Appears in Gundam 0083, 0080, Zeta and Double Zeta & elsewhere
• Second most common. I think I've only spotted this one on military hardware. It may be the symbol of the Zeon armed forces.

Eugene Ipavec, 1 january 2005
Regent's standard
by Eugene Ipavec, 3 september 2005
a flag from the 1989 anime series "Gundam 0083: Stardust Memory." It appears in episode 8 over Haman Karn's seat of honor at a cabinet meeting. Karn holds the post of regent in the Zeon goverment-in-exile during the minority of the legitimate heir, Minerva Zabi; that would make this her standard as Regent of the Principality.
Eugene Ipavec, 3 september 2005
Neo Zeon
by Eugene Ipavec, 2 january 2005
At the end of the One Year War a faction of Zeon hardliners retreats to the Pricipality's asteroid fortress of Axis, in the asteroid belt. There they proceed to label the republican authorities at home traitors and declare themselves Neo Zeon, the legitimate embodiment of the Pricipality in exile, and sponsor acts of 'resistance' against the Feds. The Axis flag is a variant of the Principality's. This is another case where I cannot find a clear enough image to ascertain exactly which flavor of Zeon sigil is in use. But I've eliminated three, so it's a 50/50 shot. However, it should likely be labeled as provisional.
Eugene Ipavec, 2 january 2005
Neo Zeon (Sweetwater Faction)
by Eugene Ipavec, 2 january 2005
After 0090, a new faction of Neo Zeon takes form in the Earthsphere, at the refugee colony of Sweetwater. They use a flag bearing a stylized winged design taken from One Year War-era Zeon military uniforms--the faction leader had been an ace in the War.
Eugene Ipavec, 2 january 2005


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[ 本帖最后由 mj300 于 2008-2-28 11:14 编辑 ]

NICE~

顺道吧其他势力标志放上，然后作为资料贴吧....

另開[逃……………………

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聯邦滿塞
Federated Union of Earth (Chiyuu Renpou)
by Eugene Ipavec, 31 december 2004
The Federation (formally, the Federated Union of Earth) is an UN-style world government that is liberal and somewhat democratic but is also corrupt, overbearing, oligarchic, paralyzed with bureaucracy and rather incompetent-and which gets progressively less liberal and democratic as the series' timeline progresses, on top. The Federation's flag is not featured that often-it never appears in the original series at all. It is, however, shown waving during the title sequence of Gundam episode 0083: Stardust Memory, where the design can be made out very clearly, though the colors are a bit iffy because of poor lighting. The flag seems to be modeled after that of the UN, with the Earth in the center of a blue field, with the diamond-shaped field possibly lifted from the Brazilian flag in a subtle attempt to suggest the Federation's somewhat banana-republic-like tendencies toward instability and repression.
Eugene Ipavec, 21 may 2003
Earth Federal Forces (Renpou-Gun)
by Eugene Ipavec, 31 december 2004
The flag of the Earth Federal Forces, the Earth Federation's military. The central symbol is a variant on the Federation's arms. This flag actually appears in the original series, in the scene where General Reville is being welcomed at the captured Zeonic asteroid fortress of Solomon, as well as in the Gundam: The Origin manga, at the signing of the Antarctic Treaty. This may mean that the EFF flag also serves as the flag of the Federation during the One Year War period, due to the interruption of civilian control. If so, the 'earth' design is restored to use at some point between the end of the war in Jan. 0080 and early 0083.
Eugene Ipavec, 21 may 2003
Vertical Banner
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by Eugene Ipavec, 31 december 2004
This banner can be seen hanging at the back of the hall during the court-martial scene in Gundam:The 08th MS Team. I would guess it is a ceremonial version of the EFF flag.
Eugene Ipavec, 21 may 2003
Space arm of the Federal Forces
by Eugene Ipavec, 31 december 2004
The flag of the space arm of the Federal Forces. The acronym stands for 'United Nations Troops Spacy', though the official translation has used the term 'Earth Federation Space Forces,' which also appears onscreen. The U.N.T. Army and Navy presumably also have flags, but they are never shown in the animations. This flag can be seen in a newspaper photo in Gundam 0080: War in the Pocket, announcing the signing of an armistice to conclude the One Year War. The picture is in b&w, but as the symbol of the Federal Forces is shown frequently on spacecraft and uniform patches and is always red-and-gold, it is a reasonable assumption that this color scheme carries over to the flag. When shown on display screens the initials U.N.T. are punctuated, but on the treaty-signing flag they are not.
Eugene Ipavec, 31 december 2004
Titans Corps
by Eugene Ipavec, 31 december 2004
Three years after the conclusion of the war, the Delaz incident--a series of massive terrorist attacks--prompts a turn toward authoritarianism within the Federation. A new branch of the Federal Forces is established for the task of maintaining internal security and supressing anti-Federation militancy: the Titans Corps. Their flag appears now and then in Zeta Gundam, often behind Jamitov Heimann at press conferences. There is another version, with a more stylized bird and lacking the red star.
Eugene Ipavec, 31 december 2004
Roundel (Technical Manual version)
by Eugene Ipavec, 10 january 2005
Roundel (TV version)
by Eugene Ipavec, 10 january 2005
This version appears in Gundam 0080, on a Medea heavy cargo aircraft.
Eugene Ipavec, 10 january 2005

[ 本帖最后由 mj300 于 2008-2-28 14:54 编辑 ]

那位高人能翻译下啊？！大感激！！

作画时间造成的变化，以最新的为准

一直认为这是个头带V字天线的小孩在跳舞- -

联邦的星月徽记代表什么？
十字星代表殖民地，而弯月代表月球么？

第一幅ZION的军旗在0079和0083里出现;第二幅不知;第三幅是0079一年战争默示录中出现的ZION的军旗
第一幅黑的ZION徽标出现在默示录中;第二幅黑的ZION徽标出现在0083;第三幅黑的ZION徽标仅出现在0079;第四幅黑的ZION徽标出现在0080/0083/Z/ZZ和别的高达动画中;第五黑的ZION徽标是第二平凡使用的.
蓝色的ZION徽标是出现在0083中.
下面红色的ZION徽标是Z高达和0083中阿克西斯使用的ZION徽标和ZZ高达中新ZION的徽标
最下面的红色的ZION徽标是夏亚在0093使用的新ZION的徽标

无解。

不过你相信这是十字傍新月的新时期地球沙文主意体现好了~

我记得斑鸠扫的一年战争全史P.104上面的联邦国防组织图上，十字新月旗只是代表联邦宇宙军，地球军的军旗是白底的联邦政府旗（就是那个菱形里面塞个地球那个）

十字星代表北约西方集团,新月代表穆斯林文化圈,两者交叉代表社会主义东方阵营;镰刀锤子交叉的变体.意味着三大势力联合,全球统一

铁十字是德国传统的标志，现在还是德国国防军的标志。请不要无知地把这个与纳粹划上等号


更柔和的曲线？麻烦您去看看二战时期德国的铁十字勋章什么样～～～～


[ 本帖最后由 Robin567 于 2008-2-29 00:49 编辑 ]

二次德军的黑十字用直线主要是因为方便涂装吧
有些连中间黑色都没有涂只是涂上白色的外环
弯弯的线条对前线士兵来说不是容易画上去战车或战机上

徽章这些后方生产的工艺品就当然是正式的造型

吉翁好像还有不同派别用不同军徽的习惯
那些不同的吉翁应该就是不同派别的小分歧

[ 本帖最后由 wwc1988 于 2008-2-29 02:08 编辑 ]

二战德国军械的国籍标志是直角正十字.不是马尔他十字



一战时期的ROUNDEL标志


二战时期的BALKENKRUEZ



现代的ROUNDEL



[ 本帖最后由 David-Lee 于 2008-2-29 06:24 编辑 ]

请问在吉恩公国使用的十字,是哪一种?

吉翁胜利十字



吉翁铁十字

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